R6 Gauges on FZ6?

[td301]

I know the FZ uses the R6 motor. Are the R6 gauges plug and play on the FZ6? I acquired a wrecked FZ6 without the front fairing or gauges. I figured used r6 gauges can be had cheap. I know I can build a mount for it, just concerned about the plugs/wiring.

(I've used magnetic bicycle speedos on streetfighters before but I'd prefer real gauges if it doesn't require much tweaking.)

[Wavex]

I seriously doubt that the wiring harness will work as plug and play. About the actual speedo, I doubt it`ll work as well, since I would assume the ECU between the R6 and the FZ6 are different as well (different maps, different sensors...), but I may be wrong... even if the ECUs are different, the signals may be similar enough to be interpreted properly by the R6 speedo, however, my bet is that it won`t work at all.

I am using the Koso RX1N speedo from here: :: KOSO NORTH AMERICA :: gauge, gauges, motorcycle gauge, car gauge, motocross gauges, automobile gauge, atv gauge, speedometer, tachometer

I got speed, tacho, neutral + turn signals, clock, trip meters, 0-60 timer (plus a whole bunch of other fun timers you can use to time yourself from a stop)... I do not have the engine warning light, nor the oil pressure indicator. The koso does come with 2 temp. sensors that you can use if you want to (I didn`t).

Other than that, did you consider getting a used FZ6 speedo? what year is your FZ?

Good luck

[jamesfz6]

Originally Posted by Wavex

I seriously doubt that the wiring harness will work as plug and play. About the actual speedo, I doubt it`ll work as well, since I would assume the ECU between the R6 and the FZ6 are different as well (different maps, different sensors...), but I may be wrong... even if the ECUs are different, the signals may be similar enough to be interpreted properly by the R6 speedo, however, my bet is that it won`t work at all.

I am using the Koso RX1N speedo from here: :: KOSO NORTH AMERICA :: gauge, gauges, motorcycle gauge, car gauge, motocross gauges, automobile gauge, atv gauge, speedometer, tachometer

I got speed, tacho, neutral + turn signals, clock, trip meters, 0-60 timer (plus a whole bunch of other fun timers you can use to time yourself from a stop)... I do not have the engine warning light, nor the oil pressure indicator. The koso does come with 2 temp. sensors that you can use if you want to (I didn`t).

Other than that, did you consider getting a used FZ6 speedo? what year is your FZ?

Good luck

So, Wavex, how fast is the 0-60 time and any others you can track with that speedo............................................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...............

[Wavex]

haha I was waiting for that... I think last time I played with it, I did a 0-60 is like 4.1 seconds, which is pretty bad, but it was just a test from a light... yes, it was in city traffic lol.

I have to find a place where I can spend some time really trying to set my best time, and I have not done that yet.

You can set the timer for 0-60mph, or you can set it for a 1/4 mile, or any distance between 0 and 1mile.... you can also set it so it`ll record all parameters as long as your speed increases... so for example, I take off and go all the way to 6th gear until I get no thrust left and brake... as soon as the speed starts decreasing, the timer stops... then I can review how long it took me to get there, along with the max speed reached, and the max rpm the engine put out.

It's a pretty fun speedo, but LA traffic is not great to test it out

[td301]

Those Koso gauges are really nice but a bit pricey for me. The RX1 and the RX2 models look the part. The simple tachs they have are tempting and pretty reasonable.

My FZ is an '04 and I'd consider the FZ6 gauges too but a quick look at eBay showed several R6 gauges available. How about FZ1 or R1 gauges? I want to avoid the LCD tachs though.

I'm illiterate on how those gauges work. You mentioned the ECU. I know the Trailtech Vapor gauge uses the spark plug wire. My brother has one on his NT650 Hawk...it's not the best. The tach jumps all over the place.

[phxtravis]

Originally Posted by td301

My brother has one on his NT650 Hawk...it's not the best. The tach jumps all over the place.

known problem...but easily fixable. The Tach on my Vapor doesnt jump one bit!

[td301]

Originally Posted by phxtravis

known problem...but easily fixable. The Tach on my Vapor doesnt jump one bit!

Alright, phxtravis. You can't say that and not give the answer. So what's the fix for the Vapor?

[Wavex]

Originally Posted by td301

Those Koso gauges are really nice but a bit pricey for me. The RX1 and the RX2 models look the part. The simple tachs they have are tempting and pretty reasonable.

My FZ is an '04 and I'd consider the FZ6 gauges too but a quick look at eBay showed several R6 gauges available. How about FZ1 or R1 gauges? I want to avoid the LCD tachs though.

I'm illiterate on how those gauges work. You mentioned the ECU. I know the Trailtech Vapor gauge uses the spark plug wire. My brother has one on his NT650 Hawk...it's not the best. The tach jumps all over the place.

Well yes, if you get an aftermarket speedo, you`ll have to tap your coil ignition wire, setup your speed sensor etc... but your question was to put an R6 speedo on your bike... these won`t come with the wires/sensors you need to do that. Same with the FZ1, R1 etc etc gauges... so you`ll only have the wires that come from your ECU to get the speed and tach signals... in other words I don`t think any of these speedos will work. I might be wrong, but i`d bet on it

[jamesfz6]

Originally Posted by Wavex

haha I was waiting for that... I think last time I played with it, I did a 0-60 is like 4.1 seconds, which is pretty bad, but it was just a test from a light... yes, it was in city traffic lol.

I have to find a place where I can spend some time really trying to set my best time, and I have not done that yet.

You can set the timer for 0-60mph, or you can set it for a 1/4 mile, or any distance between 0 and 1mile.... you can also set it so it`ll record all parameters as long as your speed increases... so for example, I take off and go all the way to 6th gear until I get no thrust left and brake... as soon as the speed starts decreasing, the timer stops... then I can review how long it took me to get there, along with the max speed reached, and the max rpm the engine put out.

It's a pretty fun speedo, but LA traffic is not great to test it out

It looks like you need to take a trip to texas. Plenty of roads around here to test it out on.

[bmccrary]

Originally Posted by Wavex

I seriously doubt that the wiring harness will work as plug and play. About the actual speedo, I doubt it`ll work as well, since I would assume the ECU between the R6 and the FZ6 are different as well (different maps, different sensors...), but I may be wrong... even if the ECUs are different, the signals may be similar enough to be interpreted properly by the R6 speedo, however, my bet is that it won`t work at all.

Yea the R6 ECU and FI is completely different. We use a batch fire system where as the R6 uses sequincial (spelling) injection. It would be neat to try maybe you could some how put together some sort of harness. It would be neat for sure. But it sure wont be a plug and play.

However the injection has nothing to do with the cluster. If you could figure out which wires controlled the tach and speedo. The fuel level and coolant temp wouldnt be too toug, it would just depend on what teh scale of the gauge is. Ie would a half tank of gas read half tank on the gauge?

The really tricky part would be the error codes, and that would be the major issue with the different ECU. You might just have to put in a red LED so it would just light up when ever you threw a code.

-bryan