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DuPont Teflon Wax Lube vs Maxima Chain Wax
When I first bought the FZ6, I also bought whatever can of chain lube was at the dealership, which happened to be the Maxima chain wax. For about 2,000 miles I have used this to lube my chain at 250-300 mile intervals. When I first applied the Maxima to the chain, it was very watery and brown. It also seemed to clean my chain very well so I don't even use chain cleaner. After about 30 minutes, it will dry to a tacky, caramel-like goop. This helps to identify any chain links that I have missed. I've noticed that on cold mornings the rollers are very hard to roll, but after a long run, the goop warms up and they roll a lot easier. At the end of each chain lube interval, the chain lube does attract a bit of gunk on them, but the lube is still there, though it is more sticky. I could probably go the 500 mile chain lube interval and be ok. The gunk easily comes off with another application of the Maxima.
Now I have run out of the Maxima chain wax and decided to take the opportunity to try the popular DuPont Teflon Wax. Found it at Lowes for about $4 a can; a bargain compared to the $10 for the Maxima Chain Wax. First time I applied it, I noticed that it doesn't seem to clean as well as the Maxima Chain Wax. It also dries very quickly and leaves the rollers to spin very, very freely. After about 300 miles or so later, the rollers still spin easily and the chain looks so much cleaner. Overall, I really like the DuPont over the Maxima lube because of its price and how clean the chain was. However, between the stickiness of the Maxima and the super slick DuPont, I wonder if it's better for the chain if I used something stickier and more viscous to lubricate it? At high rotation speeds I worry that the DuPont would start to break down and dry up while the Maxima would just drop in viscosity. I guess the only way to find out is to see how long my chain lasts. |
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Re: DuPont Teflon Wax Lube vs Maxima Chain Wax
Excellent post. I also use the Maxima lube and wondered about the Dupont Teflon. My concern with the Teflon is how well it keeps water off and out of the chain. The wax provides good rust protection for the entire chain, I don’t have a bit of rust after 14,000 miles. Also there are various products available that can clean the Maxima from the chain but I’m not sure if those same products will clean the Teflon. Keep us posted, especially when it comes time for maintenance cleaning.
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Re: DuPont Teflon Wax Lube vs Maxima Chain Wax
I used DuPont's Teflon Multi Purpose Lube and like it.
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Re: DuPont Teflon Wax Lube vs Maxima Chain Wax
teflon cleans and stays clean looking when applied. wax / grease is messy.
manual says to use motor oil so teflon should be more than adequate.
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Re: DuPont Teflon Wax Lube vs Maxima Chain Wax
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Re: DuPont Teflon Wax Lube vs Maxima Chain Wax
The DuPont Teflon works great, even in the rain. The chain wax stuff is more designed for non o ring chains. That sticky stuff will attract lots of dust that works its way to the o rings and slowly chews them up. So with a wax cleaning and lubing seem to be more frequent. The DuPont stuff leaves no residue so after a long ride on dusty country roads, the chain is still clean. The only thing that would take the chain wax off was kerosene, and that is a messy job. The DuPont Teflon seems to clean it self as you put it on. I just wipe the chain off with a rag before applying to get any major gunk off. Since I started using DuPont Teflon, my Grunge Brush is collecting dust on a shelf.
Do chains last longer using the DuPont Teflon? That I do not know yet, but I hardly ever have to adjust the chains on my bikes since I started using it. I think that is a fairly good indication that it protects the o rings and factory lube in the chain. I would never use anything else on an o ring chain, the DuPont is cheap, easy to find and use. The only downside is that I use it for lots of stuff around the house, so the cans are always empty.
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Re: DuPont Teflon Wax Lube vs Maxima Chain Wax
I too purchased a can of Maxima chain wax when I purchased my FZ. Almost 17,000 miles later, my can is just about empty. My chain appears to be in good shape, no visible rust. I use kerosene to clean my chain. I prefer the wax vs oil or lube becuase it's not as messy when you go out and ride after applying.
However, I recalled Sportrider had an issue with the Maxima wax. Will have to do a search on that and get back.
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Re: DuPont Teflon Wax Lube vs Maxima Chain Wax
I think it was due to the fact he was spraying his chain with WD-40 first to clean it... The WD-40 might have got behind some of the o-rings disolving the permanent lube in the chain.
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Re: DuPont Teflon Wax Lube vs Maxima Chain Wax
I went with the teflon wax when I bought lube for my first chain maintenance. The bike's previous owner had used grease or motor oil, which was all over the place and full of road grit.
I used kerosene to wash down the chain and glops of crud the best I could, then found that the powerful spray from the can of wax cleaned up most of the remaining mess. Still, it took a good 150 miles before I stopped hearing the chain and sprocket chewing each other up with the grit that I just couldn't get out of the chain...needed a soft brush, didn't have one. The chain now has a slight haze of dirt sticking to it, which is far preferable to the 'dragged through the mud' look it had before...probably time to lube again
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