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xeres · 08-16-2008, 06:11 AM

Is this a bad idea and any thoughts regarding this but I was thinking. I ride most weather and wash the bike alot trying to keep on top of the rust situation but inevitably, it will always happen. most annoying to me is the furring of bolts which are an obvious sign of times and the wierd "crystalising" (i suspect furring as well) on the brake lines at the point the point where they attach into the brake pots but aren't the rubber/metal hoses running from your handlebars.

I had a thought though. I used to drive an old Vespa PX of which i had the chrome racks to look the biz but inevitably suffered from rusting through. So before it got too bad, i went to Halfords and bought a spray can of clear laquer and "sealed" it. Surprisingly, this worked VERY effectively. It lost some of its shiny lustre under the coat but that was to be expected and would have been ineveitable after a years rain rinding anyhow.

The question i ask is this: If i was to carefully spray laquer exposed fixings, bolts and rustable points on the bike, do you think this would be a good idea? Fully cleaned, this should protect them from tarnish and also make them easier to clean. Can anyone think of a negative to this idea? A few i have thought off are as follows:

1. The laquer will obviously seal so make sure all fixings are done individually.
2. If the laquer was on the threads of the screws, could this damage the thread it goes into?

Anybody have any good ideas?

X

FZ6-ZN · 08-16-2008, 06:32 AM

I live within a stones throw of the beach so rust is a major problem for me. I have taken each bolt out one by one and coated the threaded section with copper grease. I have a jar of Japan black, the same dye they use to colour the bolts at the factory when new. When I remove a bolt, I re-stain it before replacing.

I wash my bike with a little diesel added to the bucket and dry the bike with a high powered blower. Bike is now two years old and not a sign of rust

Hope this helps

FZ6-ZN

n1one · 08-16-2008, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FZ6-ZN

I wash my bike with a little diesel added to the bucket ......
FZ6-ZN

What.........the..............?????

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

castor · 08-16-2008, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n1one

What.........the..............?????

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

That could easily be a seriously smart solution. See, when you add diesel into water during wash, water drains or vapourise off the bike, but diesel stays on top and get in under bolts and joints and actually makes a fine thin film protection...

Smart, FZ6-ZN...

BranNwebster · 08-16-2008, 06:44 PM

Just good ol clean water is not going to do anything with most metals. So rinse the bike off frequently and wash it once in a while using automotive soap that has a polish/wax mixed in.

I have to admit diesel sounds crazy.

**FZ6inNH** · 08-16-2008, 06:47 PM

Hit the rust points with WD-40 once in a while (After washing or riding in the rain), then wipe off the excess. You'll never see rust develop there, period.

BranNwebster · 08-16-2008, 06:49 PM

I use this:
Blue Coral - Car Care Products

xeres · 08-20-2008, 01:13 AM

thanks for the input and tips guys.

Thing is, what do you all think of my idea of laquering? Worth doing? Its darn hard to stay on top of rust and if you miss it once, its already too late.

X

fazerfred · 10-21-2008, 01:31 AM

Why not coat the bike in ACF-50. Tried it for the first time last year and worked a treat!

FooFazer · 10-21-2008, 05:00 AM

I've been thinking of corrosion protection as well, there are loads of after wash products out there that protect from corrosion but most of the ones I have seen warn against getting any on the brake discs and pads which is a pain with a spray on solution.
I have found this one in a local store that is ok on braking surfaces.
Wurth Sa Besto Corrosion Inhibitor 08901351
http://www.wurth.co.uk/catalogue/pdfs/UK-CD_10_0026.pdf
Not had a chance to use it yet but if its anything like their other products that I use at work, should be pretty good.

08-16-2008, 06:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
xeres Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: York, england Bike: Yamaha FZ6n 2005 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 4 Member #1521	Weatherproofing your beauty Is this a bad idea and any thoughts regarding this but I was thinking. I ride most weather and wash the bike alot trying to keep on top of the rust situation but inevitably, it will always happen. most annoying to me is the furring of bolts which are an obvious sign of times and the wierd "crystalising" (i suspect furring as well) on the brake lines at the point the point where they attach into the brake pots but aren't the rubber/metal hoses running from your handlebars. I had a thought though. I used to drive an old Vespa PX of which i had the chrome racks to look the biz but inevitably suffered from rusting through. So before it got too bad, i went to Halfords and bought a spray can of clear laquer and "sealed" it. Surprisingly, this worked VERY effectively. It lost some of its shiny lustre under the coat but that was to be expected and would have been ineveitable after a years rain rinding anyhow. The question i ask is this: If i was to carefully spray laquer exposed fixings, bolts and rustable points on the bike, do you think this would be a good idea? Fully cleaned, this should protect them from tarnish and also make them easier to clean. Can anyone think of a negative to this idea? A few i have thought off are as follows: 1. The laquer will obviously seal so make sure all fixings are done individually. 2. If the laquer was on the threads of the screws, could this damage the thread it goes into? Anybody have any good ideas? X __________________ <a href="http://zentaur.zed.ro/?hero=CharName" title="Legend of Mir 3 server zentaur - Free MMORPG"><img src="http://zentaur.zed.ro/zb-box.jpg" width="150" height="200" border="0" alt="Legend of Mir 3 server zentaur - Free MMORPG"></a>

08-16-2008, 06:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
FZ6-ZN Avid Biker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Africa Bike: FZ6 Fazer Posts: 92 Rep Power: 2 Member #4105	Re: Weatherproofing your beauty I live within a stones throw of the beach so rust is a major problem for me. I have taken each bolt out one by one and coated the threaded section with copper grease. I have a jar of Japan black, the same dye they use to colour the bolts at the factory when new. When I remove a bolt, I re-stain it before replacing. I wash my bike with a little diesel added to the bucket and dry the bike with a high powered blower. Bike is now two years old and not a sign of rust Hope this helps FZ6-ZN __________________ 06 FZ6 Fazer ~ Team Yamaha Blue, the fast one... Mods;Aluminum radiator guard,colour coded belly pan, R6 bar ends, Integrated tail light, flush LED front indicators, Two brothers exhaust, DHM frame sliders, CAT removal, R6 foot pegs, blue rim stripes, taper roller bearings,, Pazzo "shorty" levers

08-16-2008, 06:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
BranNwebster The UNO Master Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Webster Texas Bike: 07 Fz6 Posts: 447 Rep Power: 8 Member #2405	Re: Weatherproofing your beauty Just good ol clean water is not going to do anything with most metals. So rinse the bike off frequently and wash it once in a while using automotive soap that has a polish/wax mixed in. I have to admit diesel sounds crazy. __________________ If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple of payments.

08-16-2008, 06:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
FZ6inNH Moderator w/ Twisted Fate Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Hampshire Bike: 2008 FZ6 Cobalt Blue Posts: 3,151 Rep Power: 51 Member #18	Re: Weatherproofing your beauty Hit the rust points with WD-40 once in a while (After washing or riding in the rain), then wipe off the excess. You'll never see rust develop there, period. __________________ -={FZ6inNH}=- . . Member #9 . . 2008 Cobalt Blue FZ6 -My Rider Resume Mods: Yamaha Lower Cowl, Racetech Springs w/15w oil, FAZR6 F.E. Kit, Puig Smoke Racing Screen, Tank Camera mount, Cortech Sport saddle and tail bags, dual headlight mod, Shogun Sliders, Yamaha Comfort Seat, Mild Airbox Mod, De-Stickered, and Custom Carbon Fiber SwingArm Decals

08-16-2008, 06:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
BranNwebster The UNO Master Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Webster Texas Bike: 07 Fz6 Posts: 447 Rep Power: 8 Member #2405	Re: Weatherproofing your beauty I use this: Blue Coral - Car Care Products __________________ If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple of payments.

08-20-2008, 01:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
xeres Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: York, england Bike: Yamaha FZ6n 2005 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 4 Member #1521	Re: Weatherproofing your beauty thanks for the input and tips guys. Thing is, what do you all think of my idea of laquering? Worth doing? Its darn hard to stay on top of rust and if you miss it once, its already too late. X __________________ <a href="http://zentaur.zed.ro/?hero=CharName" title="Legend of Mir 3 server zentaur - Free MMORPG"><img src="http://zentaur.zed.ro/zb-box.jpg" width="150" height="200" border="0" alt="Legend of Mir 3 server zentaur - Free MMORPG"></a>

10-21-2008, 01:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
fazerfred Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Glasgow Bike: FZ6 S2 (Lava Red) Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0 Member #2370	Re: Weatherproofing your beauty Why not coat the bike in ACF-50. Tried it for the first time last year and worked a treat!

10-21-2008, 05:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
FooFazer Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bristol UK Bike: FZ6-S2 Posts: 63 Rep Power: 2 Member #5071	Re: Weatherproofing your beauty I've been thinking of corrosion protection as well, there are loads of after wash products out there that protect from corrosion but most of the ones I have seen warn against getting any on the brake discs and pads which is a pain with a spray on solution. I have found this one in a local store that is ok on braking surfaces. Wurth Sa Besto Corrosion Inhibitor 08901351 http://www.wurth.co.uk/catalogue/pdfs/UK-CD_10_0026.pdf Not had a chance to use it yet but if its anything like their other products that I use at work, should be pretty good. __________________ 2008 Black FZ6-S2 ABS...Lower fairing panels...Touring screen...Heated grips...Scottoiler dual injector...Front fender extender...Datatool S4...bd43 headlamp mod...Givi rack and Topcase...Baglux Tank cover and tank bag

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