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Old 10-05-2008, 10:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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$1,000 fine for speeding 50 mph over limit takes effect in Florida -- South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Florida goes nuts.

What's nuts about that? There's no excuse for going 50 mph over the limit. You'll probably kill yourself, but more importantly, some innocent bystander. I'm sure we remember the recent posting of a bike fully inside the passenger compartment of a VW Golf. I think it was going in the 140mph range. $1000 is probably big enough to make some people think twice. The previous $250 fine may have been small enough to chance it.
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Re: Florida goes nuts.

At that price point, and with the loss of lic. for 5 or 10 years.

How many are going to stop?

I have very very very rarely ever ran from the cops in my life. Never on the bike.
With that sort of punishment I would not stop.
Its like they are asking for high speed pursuit with the attending risks for riders, law enforcement and people just driving.

Thats why its crazy in my opinion. Who is going to stop? I know I wouldnt. I have always been respectful to the police on my bike. This one is going to cause people to run from the law. Most motorcycle chases end in the rider getting away. Now they are just going to have more high speed pursuits.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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At that price point, and with the loss of lic. for 5 or 10 years.

How many are going to stop?

I have very very very rarely ever ran from the cops in my life. Never on the bike.
With that sort of punishment I would not stop.
Its like they are asking for high speed pursuit with the attending risks for riders, law enforcement and people just driving.

Thats why its crazy in my opinion. Who is going to stop? I know I wouldnt. I have always been respectful to the police on my bike. This one is going to cause people to run from the law. Most motorcycle chases end in the rider getting away. Now they are just going to have more high speed pursuits.
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Re: Florida goes nuts.

Yeah I guess so.

I know I am not the only one of us just on this forum who has done a top speed run, or 6. I have several times exceded the limit by 50mph. I have always said no matter what I will stop for the police out of respect for the officer.

If they are going to suspend my lic for 5 or 10 years for a wheelie or speeding, doing so removing my ability to make a living, buy food, basicly do anything I cant stop for them. I dont live in Florida. I have been stopped once on a R6 in FL. As soon as I saw the lights I put on the signal, flashed the brake lights, waited for him to get turn around, waved my hand, turned onto a side street, left enough room for him to pull in behind me, put the stand down, removed the key and held it up in the air for him to see. He knew I was stopping, he did not feel threatened, and we had a short conversation about me going at lot slower on his roads.

If the law had been 1000$ fine, I could of dusted his butt, and would of. That simple.

Here is why I think they are insane.

Ok new riders or riders with a new bike are going to do top speed runs. (I think most of us do it) Say you got a rider with around a year of experince riding. Say he is playing around with some friends and they are doing 100 down a road. They arent going to stop, they are going to scatter, the slowest rider to scatter will most likely be the most inexperinced rider, the police chase. Who is the most likely to crash and die, or crash into another car, or how likely are the police to crash into another car and kill or injure someone?

Will this start the no chase policy? What does that do? Lessen respect for law enforcement.

There are no winner on this one except the treasury, and funeral homes. Its not good for insurance companies, police safety, rider safety or public safety. It is a bad idea and wrong.

These are 100% my opinons and not the opinons of this site.
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Re: Florida goes nuts.

On the one side I think they are right to impose such heavy fines, but on the other hand : I think us bikers should have more opportunities to ride to the limit without risking others. There are a few tracks here and there, but a track day is expensive, you can not do it every other day and so on. There should be more for us to exercise our hobby...
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Re: Florida goes nuts.

I agree, at that price I would run too. Where I live there are some roads that are so straight and flat that you can see for miles. Of course I am going to open the bike up a little (or a lot). Granted cops are never on this road. But, the local freeway during rush hour has had many bikes try and set land speed records. Why? During heavy traffic, the police department decided it is too dangerous to pursue. So when the traffic is non existent, and I am only endangering myself I will get a ticket and all of the racket that goes with it, but I can get a pass if the traffic is heavy and I endanger everyone. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Then again the whole point of tickets is not public safety. It is a revenue generator plain and simple. And the insurance company's love it too, higher rates for basically doing what everybody does.

Remember that the first speeding ticket for a motorized vehicle was issued a year before the speedometer was invented. So we have been behind the bureaucrats since day one.
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Re: Florida goes nuts.

Here in Belgium running from the cops has no point. They have radars setup in cars, and when they catch you speeding, they automatically take a picture of you (and your license plate). The ticket (or subpoena) arrives in the mail a little while later.
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Re: Florida goes nuts.

In Ontario, Canada where I live 50kph over the limit nets you a $10,000 fine, an immediate vehicle seizure with 7 day lic suspension. Now what were you saying about Florida going nuts? LOL...
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In Ontario, Canada ... 7 day lic suspension. ...
Thats isnt going to affect you as much as 5-10 YEARS


...the fine on the other hand seems just a bit crazy though
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