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Old 06-21-2008, 09:54 PM   #1
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over the speed limit?

i dont currently have a bike but i do have a car, i never go more then 5 mph over the speed limit. ive been reading alot latly about motorcycles as i get closer and closer to the purchase of my FZ6 and it seems to be all youtube videos and some of the forum posts are about going way to fast. now when i drive and some one blows past me in a 65 it tends to piss me off but when a motorcycle BLASts past me on the highway i see why some people dont give motorcycles the respect they deserve. i mean im fine with the riding on the shoulder and going between cars in a traffic jam but breaking a hundred on punblic roads bothers me. who here breaks the speedlimit by more then 5mph regularly on there bike and y?


i mean i understand the want to go fast. i race motocross and love speed but i dont like the idea of putting my life to chance in a situation on the road that i dont have complete controle over. on the track its controled theres almost no chance that some guy or a deer will run infront of me while im riding. on the road the difrance between 65 and 80 is big. thanks for any input and ride safe.
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Re: over the speed limit?

ride the speed limit on ur motorbike and see the tailgaters. see how much more uncomfortable you are with tailgaters on a bike than you are in ur car. in ur car its a mild annoyance, on ur bike its ****sville.

also, riding in the middle of a dense pack you are never at ease, you are constantly analysing all 5 people around you fingers tense on controls, feet and legs ready to react. pull out ahead of these people and cruise 10 kph faster than they are moving (which is usually 5 over to begin with) and all of a sudden you are nice and relaxed.

15kph over the limit with amazing braking power does not make you unsafe. as long as you have visibility you have ample opportunity to react safely. but constantly passing people is adding extra dangers as well. I will pull in between cage-blobs and find a nice spot for myself and cruise there. ill go 10-25kph over the limit to till i find my sweet spot then cruise at a speed which is usually within 5-10kph of the limit to maintain my sweet spot.

slow down while going thru intersections though.
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Re: over the speed limit?

I'm with you Benny. I rarely speed on my bike (or car for that matter), although on a recent ride with some of my Aussie mates, I got up to about 170 Kmph, (only for a short time and on very open roads with plenty of vision), to try and catch up...lol (I was getting left way behind).

As you said, speed is great... but only in the right place.

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Re: over the speed limit?

I can understand people that get pissed off with speeding vehicles BUT I hate people that get pissed off with bikes and "wow" themselves when a Lambo limited edition blasts by

That being said, everybody speeds on a bike sometimes. It's in its nature. Nobody dreamt of street bikes so he can always go slow. Bikes are fast and that's why they fascinate people.

Probably going to get flamed for this but it's still my opinion.
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Old 06-21-2008, 11:32 PM   #5
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Re: over the speed limit?

You have the right idea Benny, which is a good start before getting a bike.

On the open road with no traffic I ride at over the limit when the road conditions allow.

In traffic and built up areas then I stick to the limits.

In traffic jams I ride through traffic with consideration of other road users and when I know it is safe. I never ride on the shoulder. All the debris from the road gets blown onto it and its a great place to pick up things which will blow your tyres.

I look at the Youtube videoes of guys speeding and racing on the roads and recognise them for what they are "Unforfilled motorbike racers who dare not take it to the track"

I would suggest you look at Motorcycle accodents on Youtube and figure out how many of the accidents are caused by weather, road conditions, bike faults. Then figure out how many are caused by total idiots.

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Re: over the speed limit?

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i dont currently have a bike but i do have a car, i never go more then 5 mph over the speed limit. ive been reading alot latly about motorcycles as i get closer and closer to the purchase of my FZ6 and it seems to be all youtube videos and some of the forum posts are about going way to fast. now when i drive and some one blows past me in a 65 it tends to piss me off but when a motorcycle BLASts past me on the highway i see why some people dont give motorcycles the respect they deserve. i mean im fine with the riding on the shoulder and going between cars in a traffic jam but breaking a hundred on punblic roads bothers me. who here breaks the speedlimit by more then 5mph regularly on there bike and y?


i mean i understand the want to go fast. i race motocross and love speed but i dont like the idea of putting my life to chance in a situation on the road that i dont have complete controle over. on the track its controled theres almost no chance that some guy or a deer will run infront of me while im riding. on the road the difrance between 65 and 80 is big. thanks for any input and ride safe.
Hi Mate,

What you are seeing is a very small part of motorcycling in general.
I had an old Honda CD200 Benly for two years. I was absolutely skint, that bike gave me some great great biking moments all at a massive top speed of 60mph on my daily 40mile commute.
It had great character, started every time did about 250miles to the tank.
It was stolen from my shed one evening, I was gutted. I would love to have it back as a winter hack.

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Old 06-22-2008, 04:37 AM   #7
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Re: over the speed limit?

Benny I believe that your opinion of speed will definitely change once you get the bike. There are certain times when you can speed rather safely. Something to consider when on this subject is that speed limit's do not get updated as often as they should.
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Re: over the speed limit?

While you may enjoy going 5mph over the posted limit where I lived in California was the #1 place in the nation for citations issued above 100mph and it was more cages than bikes. Granted, not everybody was up at the century mark but many were well above the posted 65-70 mark and if you were actually going the posted limit you were going to get run over and especially if you were on a bike. Here, in Kentucky and the Tennessee area I swear this is the bump draft capitol of the world as folks tailgate like crazy and there are a huge number of rear end accidents. Out on the Interstate (freeway) you better be going 80 or again you'll get pushed right off the road and these folks have zero respect for a bike.

Now, as to the FZ6 and for that matter most 600cc sportbikes that I have been on, they love speed and they actually handle better the faster they go. Running at 65mph I'll still be in 4th gear while the bike is telling me to get my act together and step it up. The FZ6 is a rev machine and much like its sibling the R6 it wants to use those rpm. Heck, the bike doesn't even shift right below 5,000rpm as it tends to clunk and fuss about shifting. This isn't to say you can't putz around at the speed limit because you can and the bike will do it but it won't like it. The FZ6 is akin to a thoroughbred and it needs to be given it head.

I bought the FZ6 to use it for what it is, a sportbike with an ergo that promotes comfort at speed. It has shown to do many things and dollar for dollar the FZ6 is to me, the best bang for the buck on the market today.
 
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Re: over the speed limit?

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Hi Mate,

What you are seeing is a very small part of motorcycling in general.
I had an old Honda CD200 Benly for two years. I was absolutely skint, that bike gave me some great great biking moments all at a massive top speed of 60mph on my daily 40mile commute.
It had great character, started every time did about 250miles to the tank.
It was stolen from my shed one evening, I was gutted. I would love to have it back as a winter hack.

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A CD200, well you have to be very, very sad to steal one of them, never mind owning one.
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Re: over the speed limit?

Yeah...

I said the same thing when I got my FZ6...

I usually do 5 over in my truck, so I started out doing 5 over on the bike.
That's when I realized that most other motorists around this part of metro Atlanta do 10 over, and WILL tailgate a bike or try to run you down if you are not more aggressive.

By aggressive, I mean "comfortably vigilant" with your speed.
It is, by the way, perfectly legal to speed if you are honestly avoiding an accident. By your actions, you are avoiding the very thing traffic laws are there for: accidents and safety.

I try to stay with the flow of traffic at all times, and usually ride the line to stay in ppl's mirrors and short attention spans.
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