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viper_2031 · 07-04-2008, 05:39 PM

Well it goes like this, I was changing the oil on my FZ6 and I had used a funnel to pour the oil in, I left the funnel in when i started the engine to let the filter fill up, needless to say the clutch sheered off part of the funnel, a piece about 1/4 of an inch wide and 1/2 an inch long and about 1 mm thick. I was wondering how to get it out or if I have to get it out or what. if I go to taking everything apart do I have to replace all gaskets I remove I only have 300 miles on the bike, Also I just changed the oil pan because it had hit a curb another dumb accident, I hope that this is easy to fix, the engine only ran about thirty seconds before I realized what had happened. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
J

Mart Man FZ6 · 07-04-2008, 05:59 PM

Man, I can't offer any advice on where the pieces went, but that really sucks. Hope everything works out OK.

Ras Thavas · 07-04-2008, 06:14 PM

Try draining the oil and see if the pieces come out?

VEGASRIDER · 07-04-2008, 06:29 PM

At the very least, I think it would be very important to get as many pieces of the funnel out. I say that because if you decide to run it with the pieces in, it's going to melt and I'm not sure what melted plastic mixed in with oil will do to the engine, but it can't be good.

poorwboy · 07-04-2008, 06:33 PM

You need to get the pieces out or they could plug up the oil pickup screen, and that would be catastrophic. The oil will not get hot enough to melt plastic.

VEGASRIDER · 07-04-2008, 06:40 PM

Sounds like part of the funnel were shredded, or at the very least the pieces are relatively small and thin, which would be easier to melt vs one or two large thick solid piece of plastic.

Scorphonic · 07-04-2008, 06:43 PM

I agree with the comments so far, any foreign matter in your engine will be bad...but isn't that why filters are for? I doubt very very much if plastic will damage your engine, afterall plastic is quite soft in terms of moving metal pieces...I would assume the filter would remove the majority of the plastic. If it were me, i'd drain the oil again, take off the filter and replace, remove the panels of the engine and inspect the clutch/any moving parts, if required (i dont honestly know) replace any rubber seals before putting things back together. Of course the best thing to do would be to get in contact with a Yamaha dealer (or anyone with good motorbike knowledge) and ask them for a proper/definitive answer...at the end of the day your engine should be fine but best to get the pieces out of there!!

stevesnj · 07-04-2008, 06:47 PM

Bite the bullet and take it to a certified Yamaha mechanic and have them find and remove the plastic.

**Botch** · 07-04-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorphonic

I agree with the comments so far, any foreign matter in your engine will be bad...but isn't that why filters are for? I doubt very very much if plastic will damage your engine, afterall plastic is quite soft in terms of moving metal pieces...I would assume the filter would remove the majority of the plastic. If it were me, i'd drain the oil again, take off the filter and replace, remove the panels of the engine and inspect the clutch/any moving parts, if required (i dont honestly know) replace any rubber seals before putting things back together. Of course the best thing to do would be to get in contact with a Yamaha dealer (or anyone with good motorbike knowledge) and ask them for a proper/definitive answer...at the end of the day your engine should be fine but best to get the pieces out of there!!

Agree.
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07-04-2008, 07:22 PM

The oil will go through the pick up screen before it gets to the filter and yes, the pieces could cause a restriction which would reduce oil pressure. Get a clean pan and drain the oil into it. Buy a couple automotive paint strainers and pour the oil into the strainer to see what may have come out. Hopefully you will find your small pieces of plastic. The real question is how large or small the actual pieces are that may have been introduced into the system.

Food for thought: When you change the oil filter, fill that new filter with oil and allow it to sit for a moment while the element sucks it up. Fill it again and repeat the process. Now put the filter on. It will not spill as the filter has yet to completely fill. This will also reduce dry run time when you start the bike back up.

At one time or another I feel safe in saying we have all made mistakes. Having done so, we hopefully learn from those mistakes and move on.

07-04-2008, 05:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
viper_2031 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Louisiana Bike: 2007 FZ6 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0 Member #2810	I am an idiot, hope I didn't screw it up too bad Well it goes like this, I was changing the oil on my FZ6 and I had used a funnel to pour the oil in, I left the funnel in when i started the engine to let the filter fill up, needless to say the clutch sheered off part of the funnel, a piece about 1/4 of an inch wide and 1/2 an inch long and about 1 mm thick. I was wondering how to get it out or if I have to get it out or what. if I go to taking everything apart do I have to replace all gaskets I remove I only have 300 miles on the bike, Also I just changed the oil pan because it had hit a curb another dumb accident, I hope that this is easy to fix, the engine only ran about thirty seconds before I realized what had happened. Any help would be greatly appreciated. J

07-04-2008, 05:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mart Man FZ6 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Modesto CA Bike: 2007 FZ6 x 2 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 7 Member #387	Re: I am an idiot, hope I didn't screw it up too bad Man, I can't offer any advice on where the pieces went, but that really sucks. Hope everything works out OK. __________________ Marty Sticker removal mod, Dual Headlight mod, Puig dark smoke windscreen, grip puppies

07-04-2008, 06:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ras Thavas Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Bike: 2008 FZ6 Posts: 36 Rep Power: 3 Member #2820	Re: I am an idiot, hope I didn't screw it up too bad Try draining the oil and see if the pieces come out?

07-04-2008, 06:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
VEGASRIDER Dedicated Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: LAS VEGAS NV USA Bike: 2006 Blue FZ6 Posts: 1,693 Rep Power: 35 Member #83	Re: I am an idiot, hope I didn't screw it up too bad At the very least, I think it would be very important to get as many pieces of the funnel out. I say that because if you decide to run it with the pieces in, it's going to melt and I'm not sure what melted plastic mixed in with oil will do to the engine, but it can't be good. __________________ *VEGASRIDER...................Member # 35* 2006 Team Yamaha Blue FZ6 VR's Rider Resume

07-04-2008, 06:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
poorwboy Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Redlands ca Bike: 2006 CBR1000RR Posts: 716 Rep Power: 14 Member #224	Re: I am an idiot, hope I didn't screw it up too bad You need to get the pieces out or they could plug up the oil pickup screen, and that would be catastrophic. The oil will not get hot enough to melt plastic. __________________ Bikes and airplanes is all I see.

07-04-2008, 06:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
VEGASRIDER Dedicated Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: LAS VEGAS NV USA Bike: 2006 Blue FZ6 Posts: 1,693 Rep Power: 35 Member #83	Re: I am an idiot, hope I didn't screw it up too bad Sounds like part of the funnel were shredded, or at the very least the pieces are relatively small and thin, which would be easier to melt vs one or two large thick solid piece of plastic. __________________ *VEGASRIDER...................Member # 35* 2006 Team Yamaha Blue FZ6 VR's Rider Resume

07-04-2008, 06:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Scorphonic No Man is an Ireland. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Republic Of Ireland Bike: 2007 RED FZ6 S2 Posts: 552 Rep Power: 12 Member #352	Re: I am an idiot, hope I didn't screw it up too bad I agree with the comments so far, any foreign matter in your engine will be bad...but isn't that why filters are for? I doubt very very much if plastic will damage your engine, afterall plastic is quite soft in terms of moving metal pieces...I would assume the filter would remove the majority of the plastic. If it were me, i'd drain the oil again, take off the filter and replace, remove the panels of the engine and inspect the clutch/any moving parts, if required (i dont honestly know) replace any rubber seals before putting things back together. Of course the best thing to do would be to get in contact with a Yamaha dealer (or anyone with good motorbike knowledge) and ask them for a proper/definitive answer...at the end of the day your engine should be fine but best to get the pieces out of there!! __________________ British officer: You're seven minutes late, Mr. Collins. Michael Collins: You've kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your seven minutes. Mods to date: K&N filter, Oxford Heated Grips, Puig Touring Windscreen, Dual Headlights, Meta Alarm....em...soon to have Two Brothers (once money isn't an issue!!)...o and i suppose a PCIII will be required.

07-04-2008, 06:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
stevesnj Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bellmawr, NJ Bike: '07 FZ6 blue Posts: 276 Rep Power: 0 Member #2087	Re: I am an idiot, hope I didn't screw it up too bad Bite the bullet and take it to a certified Yamaha mechanic and have them find and remove the plastic.

07-04-2008, 07:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
HavBlue Guest Posts: n/a Member #	Re: I am an idiot, hope I didn't screw it up too bad The oil will go through the pick up screen before it gets to the filter and yes, the pieces could cause a restriction which would reduce oil pressure. Get a clean pan and drain the oil into it. Buy a couple automotive paint strainers and pour the oil into the strainer to see what may have come out. Hopefully you will find your small pieces of plastic. The real question is how large or small the actual pieces are that may have been introduced into the system. Food for thought: When you change the oil filter, fill that new filter with oil and allow it to sit for a moment while the element sucks it up. Fill it again and repeat the process. Now put the filter on. It will not spill as the filter has yet to completely fill. This will also reduce dry run time when you start the bike back up. At one time or another I feel safe in saying we have all made mistakes. Having done so, we hopefully learn from those mistakes and move on.

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