Double standards p*ss me off! - Yamaha FZ6 Forums - International FZ6 Motorcycle Community Forum

**Nelly** · 07-28-2007, 05:36 AM

?I go to the same garage once a week to refuel. I have never had a problem with this establishment. They know me and they know my bike. They have registration recognition software and cameras all over the place. I was at the pump and the guy would not let the fuel come to my pump. He indicated that I needed to remove my helmet. I removed the helmet and he let me gas up. First time this has happened to me. There are no signs up to remove headgear and it was p*ssing with rain. I asked the guy if it was now company policy to remove head gear and he said it wasn't. I left It there. The next week I went back again to re-fuel and the same thing happened. I was really p*ssed off. I closed the cap and went into the garage without putting fuel in. In front of me was a guy wearing a baseball cap and a hoddie (hooded top favoured by gangster types) there was no way they could have clearly seen that guys face.
Q) I asked the manager why he would not let me fuel.
A) In case you drive off.
Q) How manay bikes have driven off without paying?
A)None.
Q) How many cars have driven off with out paying?
A) Numerous.
Q) Did you ask that guy to take his hat and hood off prior to fuelling?
A) No.
I told him it was double standards and I would be purchasing fuel else where. How do any off you feel about this issue? Have you come across it? ps this also happened to me in our local DIY store. I asked the manager there if I as wearing a veil or a hoodie would the ask me to remove it. No.

VEGASRIDER · 07-28-2007, 05:45 AM

Here in the states, almost all of the petro stations require you to prepay. No pay, no fuel. For those who are fortunate to have enough credit on our credit or debit cards, we must swipe our card at the pump in order for the pump to turn on. All this with our helmets on. Cheers!

VEGASRIDER

**Nelly** · 07-28-2007, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGASRIDER

Here in the states, almost all of the petro stations require you to prepay. No pay, no fuel. For those who are fortunate to have enough credit on our credit or debit cards, we must swipe our card at the pump in order for the pump to turn on. All this with our helmets on. Cheers!

VEGASRIDER

What about stores? its funny over hear you can usually only pre-pay in daylight hours. I can understand removing helmets in banks. But come on other places? Its like saying every one who owns a firearm will kill someone.

VEGASRIDER · 07-28-2007, 06:06 AM

On occasions, If I know that I'm only going to be in the store for a short amount of time, I will leave it on. I have never been asked to remove my helmet, even inside a bank. I did that once just to see if they would say anything, and they didn't. I have even worn my helmet walking inside a casino, and surprisingly, they haven't said anything yet, so far. I guess you have had some bad luck running into the wrong people. Damn Wankers!

VEGASRIDER

**Nelly** · 07-28-2007, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGASRIDER

On occasions, If I know that I'm only going to be in the store for a short amount of time, I will leave it on. I have never been asked to remove my helmet, even inside a bank. I did that once just to see if they would say anything, and they didn't. I have even worn my helmet walking inside a casino, and surprisingly, they haven't said anything yet, so far. I guess you have had some bad luck running into the wrong people. Damn Wankers!

VEGASRIDER

A Casino is very funny LOL: that has cheered me up, thanks

OneTrack · 07-28-2007, 07:51 AM

I understand that FZ6 riders on the red ones get a lot more respect.

I've never been asked to take off my helmet at a gas station....If I was, I'd go to another gas station.
If I recall correctly, I used to always lock my doors when driving through crime-ridden, gang-infested Berkshire, so it really doesn't surprise me...?

**Nelly** · 07-28-2007, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTrack

I understand that FZ6 riders on the red ones get a lot more respect.

I've never been asked to take off my helmet at a gas station....If I was, I'd go to another gas station.
If I recall correctly, I used to always lock my doors when driving through crime-ridden, gang-infested Berkshire, so it really doesn't surprise me...?

Bugger me triple standards, the bloody red ones are not only faster, they get treated better. This is aobviously a global conspiracy...... Berkshire I will have you know is a Royal county. As such we have a much higher quality level of scum and scoundrels than the rest of the uk. huff

billiam46 · 07-28-2007, 11:13 AM

It helps with the anti-terrorism stuff, or atleast that's what I've been told.
Also, it's for the attendant's saftey....yeah this 'Person' came in and robbed me, but I couldn't see his face (he was wearing a black helmet).

**wrightme43** · 07-28-2007, 11:16 AM

Leave my helmet on, but I use the pay at the pump with a credit or debit card system. I have a speedway gas card, so when I use them when I can.
It is pretty crappy, the thing is most people just do stuff to be butt heads.

I went to Wal-Mart the other day on the bike. I carried my magnetic tank bag in with me. The "lady" at the entrance wanted me to leave my tank bag there with her. She says "Would you like to leave your backpack here with me?" I stopped and said "No, thank you." LOL
She didnt like that, and tried to tell me that I had to. I (I can be a butt head) Told her I didnt have to. That I dont see a pile of purses there, and when I do, I will leave her my tank bag. She got a very pissed off look in her eye, I smiled sweetly, and walked off.

She just instantly assumed I was a shoplifter because I was on a motorcycle.

Neil · 07-28-2007, 04:35 PM

And it's a sort of rant

Taking a helmet off in a big store, where you will be for a while is fine by me.
The same goes for banks etc.
But for fuel, no way, I will go elsewhere every time.
My local Tesco is where I get my fuel most of the time, and I use the pay at the pump option.
I do this so I will not be asked to take my helmet off.
Last week, this option is not a available, I filled the tank on my BMW R1150R and went in to pay.
Then the cashier tells me she can't take my money, nor let me in (i was already inside) until I take my helmet off.
I told her if she wanted my money she could have it, but the helmet is staying on (it was pissing down).
She refused to take it, I told her to get the manager, he said the same.
Nowhere on the premises is there a sign asking you too remove helmets, so I told him the helmet stays on, if he was refusing my money that was fine by me.
End result, £20.00 worth of petrol for free, and I was asked not to come back.

Neil.

PS: I suppose I should go and introduce myself in the new member forum now

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07-28-2007, 05:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
Nelly UK Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Reading, Berkshire, UK Bike: 2005 FZ6 Silver & black Posts: 4,196 Rep Power: 50 Member #274	*Double standards pss me off!** ?I go to the same garage once a week to refuel. I have never had a problem with this establishment. They know me and they know my bike. They have registration recognition software and cameras all over the place. I was at the pump and the guy would not let the fuel come to my pump. He indicated that I needed to remove my helmet. I removed the helmet and he let me gas up. First time this has happened to me. There are no signs up to remove headgear and it was pssing with rain. I asked the guy if it was now company policy to remove head gear and he said it wasn't. I left It there. The next week I went back again to re-fuel and the same thing happened. I was really pssed off. I closed the cap and went into the garage without putting fuel in. In front of me was a guy wearing a baseball cap and a hoddie (hooded top favoured by gangster types) there was no way they could have clearly seen that guys face. Q) I asked the manager why he would not let me fuel. A) In case you drive off. Q) How manay bikes have driven off without paying? A)None. Q) How many cars have driven off with out paying? A) Numerous. Q) Did you ask that guy to take his hat and hood off prior to fuelling? A) No. I told him it was double standards and I would be purchasing fuel else where. How do any off you feel about this issue? Have you come across it? ps this also happened to me in our local DIY store. I asked the manager there if I as wearing a veil or a hoodie would the ask me to remove it. No. __________________ "Some say......... His cardiac output is equal to the FZ6's 4 cylinders at 13,000rpm. All we know is he's called the STIG".:UK: Mods: K&N Airfilter, Datatool system 6 alarm, Bikerdude headlight harness, 12V power socket, Data tag, 15T Front sprocket, Speedo healer, Puig frame slders, front & back Crash bobbin axel sliders. "Dont ask me I got it from here"? Forum FAQs... My Resume... Last edited by Nelly; 07-28-2007 at 05:44 AM..

07-28-2007, 11:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
wrightme43 Super Sock Puppet Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bowling Green KY Bike: 07 FZ6 in Blue. Posts: 4,947 Rep Power: 71 Member #42	Leave my helmet on, but I use the pay at the pump with a credit or debit card system. I have a speedway gas card, so when I use them when I can. It is pretty crappy, the thing is most people just do stuff to be butt heads. I went to Wal-Mart the other day on the bike. I carried my magnetic tank bag in with me. The "lady" at the entrance wanted me to leave my tank bag there with her. She says "Would you like to leave your backpack here with me?" I stopped and said "No, thank you." LOL She didnt like that, and tried to tell me that I had to. I (I can be a butt head) Told her I didnt have to. That I dont see a pile of purses there, and when I do, I will leave her my tank bag. She got a very pissed off look in her eye, I smiled sweetly, and walked off. She just instantly assumed I was a shoplifter because I was on a motorcycle. __________________ “Yes, socialism does not work, and they do not want it to work, because the less it works, the more government is needed. ”

07-28-2007, 04:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
Neil Hooligan Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Rochford, Essex, UK Bike: FZ6 Posts: 26 Rep Power: 5 Member #356	First post And it's a sort of rant Taking a helmet off in a big store, where you will be for a while is fine by me. The same goes for banks etc. But for fuel, no way, I will go elsewhere every time. My local Tesco is where I get my fuel most of the time, and I use the pay at the pump option. I do this so I will not be asked to take my helmet off. Last week, this option is not a available, I filled the tank on my BMW R1150R and went in to pay. Then the cashier tells me she can't take my money, nor let me in (i was already inside) until I take my helmet off. I told her if she wanted my money she could have it, but the helmet is staying on (it was pissing down). She refused to take it, I told her to get the manager, he said the same. Nowhere on the premises is there a sign asking you too remove helmets, so I told him the helmet stays on, if he was refusing my money that was fine by me. End result, £20.00 worth of petrol for free, and I was asked not to come back. Neil. PS: I suppose I should go and introduce myself in the new member forum now

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07-28-2007, 05:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
VEGASRIDER Dedicated Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: LAS VEGAS NV USA Bike: 2006 Blue FZ6 Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 33 Member #83	Here in the states, almost all of the petro stations require you to prepay. No pay, no fuel. For those who are fortunate to have enough credit on our credit or debit cards, we must swipe our card at the pump in order for the pump to turn on. All this with our helmets on. Cheers! VEGASRIDER

07-28-2007, 06:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
VEGASRIDER Dedicated Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: LAS VEGAS NV USA Bike: 2006 Blue FZ6 Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 33 Member #83	On occasions, If I know that I'm only going to be in the store for a short amount of time, I will leave it on. I have never been asked to remove my helmet, even inside a bank. I did that once just to see if they would say anything, and they didn't. I have even worn my helmet walking inside a casino, and surprisingly, they haven't said anything yet, so far. I guess you have had some bad luck running into the wrong people. Damn Wankers! VEGASRIDER

07-28-2007, 07:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
OneTrack Super Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Richmond, BC, Canada Bike: 2006 Yamaha FZ6 Posts: 908 Rep Power: 16 Member #273	I understand that FZ6 riders on the red ones get a lot more respect. I've never been asked to take off my helmet at a gas station....If I was, I'd go to another gas station. If I recall correctly, I used to always lock my doors when driving through crime-ridden, gang-infested Berkshire, so it really doesn't surprise me...?

07-28-2007, 11:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
billiam46 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Member #324	It helps with the anti-terrorism stuff, or atleast that's what I've been told. Also, it's for the attendant's saftey....yeah this 'Person' came in and robbed me, but I couldn't see his face (he was wearing a black helmet).

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