Do you pull the clutch in all the way while shifting? - Yamaha FZ6 Forums - International FZ6 Motorcycle Community Forum

goran21220 · 07-17-2008, 11:25 PM

Everyone excuse my bad english! Is it necessary to pull the clutch all the way every time i'm shifting? It seems like an inch in would be enough to do the job done.I don't use the clutch while upshifting while i'm in the 8k rpm and up range but i don't go that fast all the time... I tried downshifting while pulling the clutch lever in only an inch or even less and it was smooth. Am i hurting the transmission by doing this??

**wrightme43** · 07-17-2008, 11:30 PM

Its the way to go to me too. All the plates have to do is unload the gears for split second and switch.

lonesoldier84 · 07-17-2008, 11:33 PM

ive heard of upshifting without using the clutch.....how does this work and when is it recommended??

Avalon786 · 07-17-2008, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lonesoldier84

ive heard of upshifting without using the clutch.....how does this work and when is it recommended??

Here you go: http://www.fz6-forum.com/forum/how-t...shifiting.html (Clutchless Shifiting)

As for me i usually pull the clutch lever all the way in. Sometimes i forget and pull it only half-way to 3/4th in and it still goes through smoothly

**wrightme43** · 07-17-2008, 11:49 PM

How to do it. with why it works after.

Accelerate briskly. Preload the shifter with your toe. As your reach 8k rpm to redline, quickly roll off a little throttle then right back on. Just a little. The gears will unload for a split second, releasing them to change. When you pull in the clutch you are unloading the gears thats what allows it to shift. When the gears are meshed and loaded they keep themselves together. Its a pretty firm one from 1st to 2cnd. It takes working on to get that one smooth. I would suggest practicing from 2cnd to third and up. In the upper gears it gets easier and you can do it at lower rpm levels too, its just easier to get the hang off it from second to third. After you practice it awhile you wont use the clutch much upshifting. Another thing to practice is that cool blip when down shifting.

Here is a excersise from a book.

Practice shifting quickly from 2cnd to 4th matching rpm, but maintaining the same speed without moving the chassis up or down. Then back down again. About 40 is perfect.

**Doorag** · 07-18-2008, 03:54 AM

I never pull the lever all the way in. I only need to move it a small amount to get good shifts. 2nd to 6th I usually try not to use any clutch at all - it's extremely smooth once you figure out how to do it.

DefyInertia · 07-18-2008, 07:45 AM

1 or 2 fingers on downshifts and in traffic etc., so no, I don't pull it all the way to the bar...not even close.

bluenova · 07-18-2008, 07:58 AM

I use 2 fingers, pre-load the gear shifter and either blip throttle or pull the clutch depending on the situation, so no when using the clutch I pull it till the gear engages and release. I only pull it all the way in when stopping.

**reiobard** · 07-18-2008, 08:11 AM

i also pre-load the shifter and then stop pulling in the clutch when it hits a new gear

**Hellgate** · 07-18-2008, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avalon786

Here you go: http://www.fz6-forum.com/forum/how-t...shifiting.html (Clutchless Shifiting)

As for me i usually pull the clutch lever all the way in. Sometimes i forget and pull it only half-way to 3/4th in and it still goes through smoothly

Be sure the read this thread, informative and the Capt. Morgan line is priceless!

07-17-2008, 11:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
goran21220 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: memphis Bike: 2008 yamaha fz6 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 4 Member #1447	Do you pull the clutch in all the way while shifting? Everyone excuse my bad english! Is it necessary to pull the clutch all the way every time i'm shifting? It seems like an inch in would be enough to do the job done.I don't use the clutch while upshifting while i'm in the 8k rpm and up range but i don't go that fast all the time... I tried downshifting while pulling the clutch lever in only an inch or even less and it was smooth. Am i hurting the transmission by doing this??

07-17-2008, 11:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
wrightme43 Super Sock Puppet Administrator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bowling Green KY Bike: 07 FZ6 in Blue. Posts: 5,177 Rep Power: 10 Member #42	Re: Do you pull the clutch in all the way while shifting? Its the way to go to me too. All the plates have to do is unload the gears for split second and switch. __________________ Texas to update slogan from 'Don't Mess with Texas' to 'We Warned You' as homeowners gun down would-be burglars at record rate.

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lonesoldier84 SuperFlanker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: canada Bike: 2006 FZ6 Blood Red w/ Fairing Posts: 1,061 Rep Power: 16 Member #2195	Re: Do you pull the clutch in all the way while shifting? ive heard of upshifting without using the clutch.....how does this work and when is it recommended?? __________________ http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1..._sig_aztec.gif "We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are spiritual beings having a human experience."

07-17-2008, 11:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
wrightme43 Super Sock Puppet Administrator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bowling Green KY Bike: 07 FZ6 in Blue. Posts: 5,177 Rep Power: 10 Member #42	Re: Do you pull the clutch in all the way while shifting? How to do it. with why it works after. Accelerate briskly. Preload the shifter with your toe. As your reach 8k rpm to redline, quickly roll off a little throttle then right back on. Just a little. The gears will unload for a split second, releasing them to change. When you pull in the clutch you are unloading the gears thats what allows it to shift. When the gears are meshed and loaded they keep themselves together. Its a pretty firm one from 1st to 2cnd. It takes working on to get that one smooth. I would suggest practicing from 2cnd to third and up. In the upper gears it gets easier and you can do it at lower rpm levels too, its just easier to get the hang off it from second to third. After you practice it awhile you wont use the clutch much upshifting. Another thing to practice is that cool blip when down shifting. Here is a excersise from a book. Practice shifting quickly from 2cnd to 4th matching rpm, but maintaining the same speed without moving the chassis up or down. Then back down again. About 40 is perfect. __________________ Texas to update slogan from 'Don't Mess with Texas' to 'We Warned You' as homeowners gun down would-be burglars at record rate.

07-18-2008, 03:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
Doorag Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West London Bike: 2007 FZ6-S2 Posts: 1,047 Rep Power: 25 Member #1338	Re: Do you pull the clutch in all the way while shifting? I never pull the lever all the way in. I only need to move it a small amount to get good shifts. 2nd to 6th I usually try not to use any clutch at all - it's extremely smooth once you figure out how to do it. __________________ David '07 FZ6 Fazer S2 in stealth Black, CAT1/2 alarm, stainless Scorpion cans, Puig dark smoke screen, bd43's dual headlight mod complete with uprated Xenon bulbs, Yamaha (GIVI) 45L detachable rear 'courier' box, frame sliders, center stand removal, red reflective rim tape, Reiobard's swing-arm stickers, Conti RoadAttack tires, full sticker removal

07-18-2008, 07:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
DefyInertia Saratogian Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Bike: '04 FZ6N - Silver Posts: 2,000 Rep Power: 57 Member #419	Re: Do you pull the clutch in all the way while shifting? 1 or 2 fingers on downshifts and in traffic etc., so no, I don't pull it all the way to the bar...not even close. __________________ 2004 FZ6N / KTM 125 SX www.youtube.com/DefyInertia "Y'all Be Safe Out There" - KILLBOY My Rider Resume

07-18-2008, 07:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
bluenova FZSIXer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Belgium Bike: FZ6 S2 '07 Naked - Blue Posts: 264 Rep Power: 7 Member #594	Re: Do you pull the clutch in all the way while shifting? I use 2 fingers, pre-load the gear shifter and either blip throttle or pull the clutch depending on the situation, so no when using the clutch I pull it till the gear engages and release. I only pull it all the way in when stopping.

07-18-2008, 08:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
reiobard Postaholic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Concord, NH Bike: 2007 FZ6 (The Faster Blue) Posts: 5,415 Rep Power: 73 Member #991	Re: Do you pull the clutch in all the way while shifting? i also pre-load the shifter and then stop pulling in the clutch when it hits a new gear

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