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MarinaFazer · 07-21-2008, 12:57 PM

So coming back from MotoGP, I think I leaned the most I ever have before coming down highway 1 (PCH for us SoCalers)

I came in hot on a downhill turn, got my butt off the bike for the right hander...I leaned...got scared that I was leaning too far (no boot or knee scrapage though).

Naturally, I did the stupid thing and attempted to bail the turn by righting myself until I saw the double yellow and knew if a car came round while i crossed, I was toast. So I braked and most likely got lucky by coming out just fine, and kept up the pace for the rest of the turns...

Just wondering if most likely this was me getting scared of doing a lowside...

Waddya think?

DefyInertia · 07-21-2008, 01:01 PM

what? I can't tell exactly what you're asking but...

always stay committed. can you describe exactly what was happening when you "came in hot"? That is, what kind of inputs were you making and where were you looking?

try not to take anyone out

fz6nick · 07-21-2008, 01:03 PM

When i get into a corner to hot, I try not to panic and bring the bike up, you will go straight. I countersteer harder, and go faster, youll get through the turn safe, just a scary moment.

**Hellgate** · 07-21-2008, 01:08 PM

Did you fixate in the corner? If so remember to look ALLLL the way through the corner.

fz6nick · 07-21-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellgate

Did you fixate in the corner? If so remember to look ALLLL the way through the corner.

Yup! very very important and probably not done enough with sportbikers. The farther you look the slower you feel like your going.

**wrightme43** · 07-21-2008, 01:34 PM

Get and read and practice Keith Code's twist of the wrist II. Not one but two. 9 times out of ten you can make it thru the corner just fine. I screwed all the way up and picked out one of the tenth times and crashed. My fault. Had I stood it up and braked I would of been upright and at speed into oncoming. I made the decision to lay it in further a long time ago, and stuck with it. Its the lesser of two evils most of the time. It turns out that time there was no oncoming and standing it up probley would of worked. Its hard to tell for me. I will still stick to the lean it in further school of thought.

MarinaFazer · 07-21-2008, 02:31 PM

yup, I usually try to look through the turn with my head up looking for the straightaway or next turn, but I was looking at the middle.

for further info: 160 degree right hand turn. Correctly banked road. Downhill. I've only been riding 2 years so I don't claim to be good by any standards...I'm usually the slow one.
I was following a guy who would shift his weight and I realized I could do it too. I felt soo much better in tighter turns by hanging a little off the bike.

I think I just get scared that I'm going to scrape a peg which will jump the bike and cause a crash...if I scrape pegs, the bike isn't going to slide out yet....right?

fyi: I wasn't going faster than 35mph around this turn...it was just a tight nearly 180 turn.

**Hellgate** · 07-21-2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarinaFazer

yup, I usually try to look through the turn with my head up looking for the straightaway or next turn, but I was looking at the middle.

for further info: 160 degree right hand turn. Correctly banked road. Downhill. I've only been riding 2 years so I don't claim to be good by any standards...I'm usually the slow one.
I was following a guy who would shift his weight and I realized I could do it too. I felt soo much better in tighter turns by hanging a little off the bike.

I think I just get scared that I'm going to scrape a peg which will jump the bike and cause a crash...if I scrape pegs, the bike isn't going to slide out yet....right?

fyi: I wasn't going faster than 35mph around this turn...it was just a tight nearly 180 turn.

Nope, if you scrape peg you'll be fine. The pegs fold so it will just fold up a bit and leave a really cool mark on the road!

**wrightme43** · 07-21-2008, 03:54 PM

Yep the peg scraping is fine. Just dont touch down the kickstand, or centerstand. I touched the centerstand and it just levered the rear tire up off the ground. I was pretty dang far over. To to to to far on the street, acting a fool, and could of paid with my life.

MarinaFazer · 07-21-2008, 04:37 PM

yea, I was just curious, because I was reading about a guy who was riding the track on a different bike and he leaned and caught the little knob under the peg that lets you know you're touching and it caught, jumped the rear, and caused a crash...now I don't plan on having peg scraping experiences ALL THE TIME, but just in case that canyon turn has me praying to jeebus to save my ass, should it grinded off or what?

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07-21-2008, 12:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
MarinaFazer Ocean Rider 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Brentwood, California 90049 (LA) Bike: 2006 FZ6 Posts: 1,051 Rep Power: 15 Member #2566	Oh Shizzo...there's the double yellow So coming back from MotoGP, I think I leaned the most I ever have before coming down highway 1 (PCH for us SoCalers) I came in hot on a downhill turn, got my butt off the bike for the right hander...I leaned...got scared that I was leaning too far (no boot or knee scrapage though). Naturally, I did the stupid thing and attempted to bail the turn by righting myself until I saw the double yellow and knew if a car came round while i crossed, I was toast. So I braked and most likely got lucky by coming out just fine, and kept up the pace for the rest of the turns... Just wondering if most likely this was me getting scared of doing a lowside... Waddya think?

07-21-2008, 01:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
DefyInertia Saratogian Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Bike: '04 FZ6N - Silver Posts: 2,000 Rep Power: 57 Member #419	Re: Oh Shizzo...there's the double yellow what? I can't tell exactly what you're asking but... always stay committed. can you describe exactly what was happening when you "came in hot"? That is, what kind of inputs were you making and where were you looking? try not to take anyone out __________________ 2004 FZ6N / KTM 125 SX www.youtube.com/DefyInertia "Y'all Be Safe Out There" - KILLBOY My Rider Resume

07-21-2008, 01:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
fz6nick LLOYD CHRISTMAS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Just Right of St. Louis Bike: 07 fz6 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 9 Member #3205	Re: Oh Shizzo...there's the double yellow When i get into a corner to hot, I try not to panic and bring the bike up, you will go straight. I countersteer harder, and go faster, youll get through the turn safe, just a scary moment. __________________ Nick 07 Sexy Red FZ6 01 ZX6R (sold) 85 Honda V30 Magna (sold) Mods: 15t Front Sprocket New Tip Scorpions Radiator Covers Black Racetech .95 springs and 15wt oil Member # 3 thousand two hundred five

07-21-2008, 01:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hellgate Super Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Bike: 2007 FZ6 Posts: 3,315 Rep Power: 60 Member #1191	Re: Oh Shizzo...there's the double yellow Did you fixate in the corner? If so remember to look ALLLL the way through the corner. __________________ Pete Mods: Akrapovic, Ohlins Remote, R6 Fork, RyanK Fender Mounts, Cobin with Backrest, Motovation Sliders, Yamaha Cowl, Stickers Removed, Galfers, Pazzo Shorties, Rizoma FE, Fredlight, Hugger Trimmed, ConvertiBar Clip-Ons, Acculign Top Clamp, OSO2K Setbacks, PC III w/ Custom AF1 Racing Map. Up Coming Mods: All Balls Headset

07-21-2008, 01:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
wrightme43 Super Sock Puppet Administrator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bowling Green KY Bike: 07 FZ6 in Blue. Posts: 5,177 Rep Power: 10 Member #42	Re: Oh Shizzo...there's the double yellow Get and read and practice Keith Code's twist of the wrist II. Not one but two. 9 times out of ten you can make it thru the corner just fine. I screwed all the way up and picked out one of the tenth times and crashed. My fault. Had I stood it up and braked I would of been upright and at speed into oncoming. I made the decision to lay it in further a long time ago, and stuck with it. Its the lesser of two evils most of the time. It turns out that time there was no oncoming and standing it up probley would of worked. Its hard to tell for me. I will still stick to the lean it in further school of thought. __________________ Texas to update slogan from 'Don't Mess with Texas' to 'We Warned You' as homeowners gun down would-be burglars at record rate.

07-21-2008, 02:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
MarinaFazer Ocean Rider 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Brentwood, California 90049 (LA) Bike: 2006 FZ6 Posts: 1,051 Rep Power: 15 Member #2566	Re: Oh Shizzo...there's the double yellow yup, I usually try to look through the turn with my head up looking for the straightaway or next turn, but I was looking at the middle. for further info: 160 degree right hand turn. Correctly banked road. Downhill. I've only been riding 2 years so I don't claim to be good by any standards...I'm usually the slow one. I was following a guy who would shift his weight and I realized I could do it too. I felt soo much better in tighter turns by hanging a little off the bike. I think I just get scared that I'm going to scrape a peg which will jump the bike and cause a crash...if I scrape pegs, the bike isn't going to slide out yet....right? fyi: I wasn't going faster than 35mph around this turn...it was just a tight nearly 180 turn.

07-21-2008, 03:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
wrightme43 Super Sock Puppet Administrator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bowling Green KY Bike: 07 FZ6 in Blue. Posts: 5,177 Rep Power: 10 Member #42	Re: Oh Shizzo...there's the double yellow Yep the peg scraping is fine. Just dont touch down the kickstand, or centerstand. I touched the centerstand and it just levered the rear tire up off the ground. I was pretty dang far over. To to to to far on the street, acting a fool, and could of paid with my life. __________________ Texas to update slogan from 'Don't Mess with Texas' to 'We Warned You' as homeowners gun down would-be burglars at record rate.

07-21-2008, 04:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
MarinaFazer Ocean Rider 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Brentwood, California 90049 (LA) Bike: 2006 FZ6 Posts: 1,051 Rep Power: 15 Member #2566	Re: Oh Shizzo...there's the double yellow yea, I was just curious, because I was reading about a guy who was riding the track on a different bike and he leaned and caught the little knob under the peg that lets you know you're touching and it caught, jumped the rear, and caused a crash...now I don't plan on having peg scraping experiences ALL THE TIME, but just in case that canyon turn has me praying to jeebus to save my ass, should it grinded off or what?

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