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Old 09-18-2008, 07:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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From the experienced am I doing anything wrong?

I have a friend at work that was kind of coaching me on riding before I ever bought a bike. One of many concerns I had about riding then was down shifting. I kept wondering how do I know when to shift down to the next gear? Also I was wondering what would happen if I shifted down to fast or like accidently shift to many times down and let go of the clutch? Would I get thrown over the bars or come to a sudden stop? Any how he told me not to worry about down shifting. He said save the engine and clutch etc... It is far easier to change the brakes and alot less expensive. Well when I started riding I just kind of found my confort zone for what I liked to do and not. I do know just cause I am confortable doesn't mean that it's the best way or safest. Anytime I have to come to a stop I usually just leave the bike in the gear and let it slow itself down to a decent speed then I grab the clutch and brakes all at the same time. Brakes front and back I apply the same pressure. Before I stop I put the bike in 1st and then stop. Right before I stop or kind of at the same time I stop I put both feet down secure balance and then lean on a leg and prop the other if I wish. To be honest I don't like to down shift because I don't like slowing down so fast with no brake light. It worries me that someone will run up my rear with my brake light not lite. Please share with me on your advice or what you do even and why. Thanks Even though I didn't mention it yes I always watch my mirrors as I brake. I glance at them and make sure ppl behind me see me and are stopping. If I see someone coming I flash the brakes light several times and again make sure they are stopping also.
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Old 09-18-2008, 07:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: From the experienced am I doing anything wrong?

i do almost the same... the only thing i can add to your technique is that i downshift with the speed. If i am at the 40 MPH mark i am in 3rd, 20 MPH mark i am in 2nd, below 10 i am in first, clutch in the whole time, but that at least keeps the bike ready to go if something presents itself as a danger. Just pop the clutch and get the hell out of there, if you are going 20 and still in 6th then you will not go anywhere when you release the clutch, you will just sputter along.
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Old 09-18-2008, 07:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: From the experienced am I doing anything wrong?

I always downshift to slowdown, I can pretty much come to a complete stop without even touching my brakes when I come to a traffic light.

Part of the reason I like to downshift is so that I'm in the correct powerband at that particualr speed or moment. I don't want to get caught in the wrong gear in case I need to accelerate. Sometimes, if you downshift at a speed that is too high for the gear, you're rear tires will slide, however, you can avoid that by gently releasing the clutch, and gradually let it catch rather than just releasing it quickly.

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i do almost the same... the only thing i can add to your technique is that i downshift with the speed. If i am at the 40 MPH mark i am in 3rd, 20 MPH mark i am in 2nd, below 10 i am in first, clutch in the whole time, but that at least keeps the bike ready to go if something presents itself as a danger. Just pop the clutch and get the hell out of there, if you are going 20 and still in 6th then you will not go anywhere when you release the clutch, you will just sputter along.
Thank you I see your point and will emplyment this into my way of stopping also. I usually just kick it all the way down to first as soon as I grab the clutch. I can see how that can cost me time if I need to hurry and scramble out of the way of something.
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I always downshift to slowdown, I can pretty much come to a complete stop without even touching my brakes when I come to a traffic light.

Part of the reason I like to downshift is so that I'm in the correct powerband at that particualr speed or moment. I don't want to get caught in the wrong gear in case I need to accelerate. Sometimes, if you downshift at a speed that is too high for the gear, you're rear tires will slide, however, you can avoid that by gently releasing the clutch, and gradually let it catch rather than just releasing it quickly.

I ALWAYS WATCH TO SEE WHO IS BEHIND ME.
Thanks for the reply and advice. I have to say yes I one time grabed the clutch the bike was in fourth gear. I was grabbing the brakes and went to down shift. I accidently dropped it into 2nd panicked and then dumped the clutch. The tire didn't slide this incident but did jolt me scaring the piss out of me.
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Re: From the experienced am I doing anything wrong?

Hook up on some books man. This is a thinking man/womans sport. Twist of the Wrist, Sport Riding Techniques, Total Control. Go to Barnes and Noble. It will make you a better rider and its fun.
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Re: From the experienced am I doing anything wrong?

Keith Code writes in Twist of the Wrist that engines are for going and brakes are for slowing. (Something along those lines)

Down shift to place yourself in the correct gear for the speed that you are slowing to while keeping the bike in the power band, 5K to 7K (for street riding). As you let the clutch out you will actually add gas while braking to smooth the transition out. Much easier said than done but with practice you'll get the hang of it.
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Re: From the experienced am I doing anything wrong?

Just keep on practicing. It will come. I downshift just by sound of the motor now. I dont remember the last time I thought about downshifting. I have also been riding motorcycles since I was 8 years old. Downshifting is a good thing like above posters has said.
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I always downshift to slowdown, I can pretty much come to a complete stop without even touching my brakes when I come to a traffic light.

Part of the reason I like to downshift is so that I'm in the correct powerband at that particualr speed or moment. I don't want to get caught in the wrong gear in case I need to accelerate. Sometimes, if you downshift at a speed that is too high for the gear, you're rear tires will slide, however, you can avoid that by gently releasing the clutch, and gradually let it catch rather than just releasing it quickly.

I ALWAYS WATCH TO SEE WHO IS BEHIND ME.
+1 Exactly what I do
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I'm with Vegas here. I use the brakes as little as possible and shidt to keep the revs up and escape if needed. Great advice!
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