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Bike: '08 FZ6 Fazer S2 ABS Join Date: Oct 2008
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HyperPro Lowering Springs
These things are awesome! Totally worth doing, it makes the bike much better in almost all ways!
First of all, I thought I would list all the other stuff on the web about these springs and get it out of the way first:-
I didn't take any pictures during the install, but it was pretty easy to do following my Haynes manual and the Hyperpro instructions. The rear spring presents the only major obstacle. It was eventually too much effort for me as for many others! The dumb Yamaha engineers don't seem to lube the bushing that goes through the swingarm and the bottom shock mount and it seizes completely. Because the bushing is round and strong, it is very hard to get a grip on and pull out. There seem to two ways to do it - one is to dremel the bushing so you get flat surfaces to grip on (which means a new bushing is needed afterwards) the other is to use heat and elbow-grease. The method I tried and gave up on is to heat up the suspension arm around the bush until it expands enough to very slowly pull out the bushing with vice grips. I tried this for 20 mins or so with no luck. I didn't want to get it too hot in case i damaged it. Afterwards, I found that it's very hard to damage the bearings etc with heat. I would probably just have needed to replace the grease. In the end, I took it to a Yamaha dealership and they charged me for two hours labour to get off the rear wheel, get the bush out, compress the existing spring, put the new spring on, put the shock back on the bike and put the rear wheel back on. I didn't really have the tools or experience to do it myself, I'm just annoyed it cost me so much! The front springs are easy. The steps are:-
I had to make up a tool to remove the front wheel. It's similar to one already shown on here. basically it was a bolt, a nut and two locking nuts. I then used a normal wrench on this to get off the front wheel. I had to stand on the wrench to get it loose though. This is the hardest bit really! After all this messing around, I was wondering if it would be worth it. It totally is. There are a couple of negatives, which I will go into later, but basically the bike is just better now. Not just for short people like me either. It's a better bike all over. Before, pushing it around was awkward - especially backwards or up and incline, now it's easy. I can flat-foot without even having to bend my legs! Before I was only able to get the front half of my foot down. The ride is improved because the centre of gravity of the bike is lower. It just feels better this way, it's easier to control, makes me a more confident rider and doesn't feel top-heavy like it used to. This is nothing to do with me being able to touch the ground, it's just the bike needed to be close to the ground! There are two negatives with this though, I was warned about both beforehand anyway. The bike is a bit too upright on the side-stand now. It stands up, but I'm not as confident about it as I was and it will only work on a flat or sloping down. I'm going to get it shortened a cm or two and welded later on. The second is a problem with progressive rear springs: it just feels too bouncy and uncertain! I used to have the stock spring set to a preload of 4, which was perfect for normal street riding and also knee-dragging. I was told in the Hyperpro instructions to reduce the preload by 2. I tried this and it was far too bouncy and mushy. I've upped the preload to 3 now and it's still not perfect. Progressive rear springs are great for absorbing bumps etc for comfort - but they aren't great for aggressive riding. Despite the negatives and the cost of £170 for the springs and for the 2 hours of labour I had to pay for the rear spring changeover I would totally do this again! It makes the bike even more my own and a better ride. I wish I'd spent more time heating and working on the rear shock myself instead of having to pay someone else to do it. I ordered a nice shock cover on ebay to protect and hide the ugly purple rear spring:- It just joins up using velcro:- It's waterproof and strong:- It's designed for a spring circumference of 25cm and fits on the spring fine:- Here it is installed over the new spring:- And from another angle:- And here you can see what it's hiding:-
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Re: HyperPro Lowering Springs
Here you can see the whole spring length:-
You can just about see that the progressive side is upwards:- As one of the many annoyances for bikers, the springs came in a very large box that was longer than it was needed:- Here is the label on the box:- Here is the label on the rear spring box:- Here is the label on the front springs. I was told that the springs were the same as the FZ6 lowering springs and that the label was just wrong:-
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Bike: 08 Yamaha FZ6 Join Date: Jul 2008
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Re: HyperPro Lowering Springs
I think the purple spring looks AWESOME!! Purple and black are my two favorite colors, though. I was actually thinking about getting purple rim tape and pazzo levers with purple adjusters. Now you have me wanting something else purple!
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Bike: 2008 Cobalt Blue FZ6 Join Date: Sep 2008
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Re: HyperPro Lowering Springs
I did this mod earlier this summer, absolutely the best change to the bike I have made. The rear spring is a little bouncy at the recommended preload. I have done a fair number track days this year and had the suspension folks dial in the balance (limited adjustability dammit!). We had to stiffen up the rear shock a bunch to get the bike balanced. I even wound up taking a little out of the front spacer to get it more balanced and slightly softer. The upside is with the bike really balanced it is very good in aggressive riding, predictable and planted with good feedback. I had to sacrifice some road riding comfort, not insignificant since I commute on it as well but i have found the trade off worth it for track days and weekend twisites with the friends on 1k nikes. Bottom line, this was great investment in the only really weakness of the FZ6.
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Brian 08' Cobalt Blue FZ6 Mods: Motovation Frame and Swing Arm Sliders, Competition Werks GP Pegs, Rizoma Billet Grips, Rizoma FE Kit, Pazzo Shorties, HyperPro Springs 09' Triumph Daytona 675 Mods: Arrow Rearsets, Translogic QuickShifter, GB Racing Case Covers, Woodcraft Clip-Ons |
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Re: HyperPro Lowering Springs
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I'm still not happy with the double-bubble. Spoiler next. I'm after comfort and rideability though and I'm willing to sacrifice looks up if I have to.
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Bike: 2008 FZ6 (BLUE) Join Date: Sep 2008
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Re: HyperPro Lowering Springs
Love my hyperpro lowering spring! I have the rear set on 3 and sometimes 4. I have the fronts that I hope to install in a couple of months when I get more time. I hated the purple on the spring at first but now I have grown to like it.
I would defiantly buy the rear again, cannot comment on the front as of yet. The lowing makes the bike look and feel more aggressive without losing the comfort we bought it for. This and the 15T sprocket have been the best mods for this bike! Didn't happen to take pictures of the front tear down did you?
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